tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post4418700811534854018..comments2024-03-25T14:54:04.942+00:00Comments on Dora Reads: Nerd Church - On Presumed Innocence, Believing Victims, and Keeping the Legal BalanceCee Arr @ Dora Readshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-56022998490148787022017-10-29T09:30:32.899+00:002017-10-29T09:30:32.899+00:00Yes, this definitely should have been dealt with p...Yes, this definitely should have been dealt with previously!<br /><br />I think the threats of the damage that can be done to women's careers if they *don't* keep quiet is horrendous - especially to those just starting out in their industries.<br /><br />I'm going to assume you meant 'ahead' - because otherwise that sentence gets a little X-rated!<br /><br />While it is indeed possible for women to also be manipulators within the system, the system - and the Hollywood system in particular - is slanted against the rights and safety of women. And that's so very, very, sad.<br /><br />Thanks so much for the comment! :)Cee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-89344968317607323862017-10-28T16:54:26.771+01:002017-10-28T16:54:26.771+01:00This is obviously quite disturbing but I'm uns...This is obviously quite disturbing but I'm unsure why the world is surprised, I remember in the late 90's/early 00's that us was almost accepted that women were getting head for what went on with their bodies. I'm not saying it isn't bad, I just don't know why there wasn't more of a big thing made of it back then, why investigations weren't made. Maybe this practice would have been well and truly over by now if this were the case. It's annoying that there will always be an abuse of power if the opportunity arises xx<br /><br />#RVHTAccidentalhipstermumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539406540524328835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-48670643648444494362017-10-20T10:48:30.108+01:002017-10-20T10:48:30.108+01:00Yes! This! You totally get it! XDYes! This! You totally get it! XDCee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-161268073309683912017-10-19T16:02:29.657+01:002017-10-19T16:02:29.657+01:00I strongly believe in presumption of innocence unt...I strongly believe in presumption of innocence until proven guilty too, but yes, sometimes people get that mixed up and think that means the victims are therefore not worth believing until their cases are "proven" true, and that is also, definitely, not the case either. Olivia's Catastrophehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12706765857201768908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-38850449117125029082017-10-18T10:59:00.768+01:002017-10-18T10:59:00.768+01:00Very true! Couldn't have put it better!
Thank...Very true! Couldn't have put it better!<br /><br />Thanks so much for the comment :)Cee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-7824670078177855972017-10-17T20:14:11.268+01:002017-10-17T20:14:11.268+01:00i'm afraid I don't know enough of the fact...i'm afraid I don't know enough of the facts to comment accurately however, what I do know is that abuse of power towards men or women is not acceptable on any level and maybe this case will highlight the issue and maybe help move a tiny bit towards eradicating this issue #RVHTMomma mackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08458679777764192367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-90670606510599503832017-10-17T19:23:53.435+01:002017-10-17T19:23:53.435+01:00Definitely agree! There is an obvious problem with...Definitely agree! There is an obvious problem with wrongful convictions, which makes the court of law a lot more confusing and difficult.paperbackprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446601964387517150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-47270244937218189462017-10-17T08:43:15.454+01:002017-10-17T08:43:15.454+01:00Totally true!
And thank you! :)Totally true!<br /><br />And thank you! :)Cee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-66952380257092012692017-10-16T13:38:31.414+01:002017-10-16T13:38:31.414+01:00This whole topic makes me sick every single time. ...This whole topic makes me sick every single time. What has been done to women throughout history and all over the world is sickening. The worst part is that we have made believe that it's acceptable and even normal and just to deal with it as our dear president said about his own daughter! She would "endure" harassment as she is "expected" too and because she is "strong" she'll put up with it and "know how to deal with it" DISGUSTING! Great post as usual Cee! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03178857439584119475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-53003116405062412222017-10-16T10:31:37.463+01:002017-10-16T10:31:37.463+01:00Totally agree. Really nothing I can add to that!
...Totally agree. Really nothing I can add to that!<br /><br />Thanks so much for the comment :)Cee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-31251878117759929122017-10-15T23:37:06.055+01:002017-10-15T23:37:06.055+01:00It sickens me that we can make correlations betwee...It sickens me that we can make correlations between Weinstein's behavior and the behavior of my president (since I'm American). How sad is that? So many men believe that it's just acceptable---I think they really truly do. And that is the problem.<br /><br />Nicole @ <a href="http://feedyourfictionaddiction.com" rel="nofollow">Feed Your Fiction Addiction</a>Nicole @ Feed Your Fiction Addictionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08637114079800138680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-33053233993950858252017-10-15T16:00:40.688+01:002017-10-15T16:00:40.688+01:00I get it - and I totally get the emotions (*restra...I get it - and I totally get the emotions (*restrains urge to rant about Weinstein*) but I also know that me making claims and statements when things aren't proven is a) irresponsible and b) likely to get me sued (thank you A-level Law!)<br /><br />I'm especially hesitant because of when you look back at historical injustices where people have been assumed to be guilty (I'm thinking particularly of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lynette_White" rel="nofollow">murder of a sex-worker named Lynette White</a> here in Wales, where 3 black men were wrongfully arrested and convicted, serving time in prison, before the actual killer was caught years later,) - things aren't always the way they first appear.Cee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-22774573040177986502017-10-15T15:45:45.122+01:002017-10-15T15:45:45.122+01:00Yeah you’re right. I guess it’s just hard for me t...Yeah you’re right. I guess it’s just hard for me to understand because I do let my emotions get in front of the actual legal procedures. That’s why I could never be a lawyer, I just think that if you admit to doing something wrong, many people are accusing you of doing something wrong, then you must’ve done something wrong. My sister always gets annoyed at me because she’s studying to be a lawyer and really keeps with those codes and conversations. With me, it’s just too hard, you know? paperbackprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446601964387517150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-61397110461287807712017-10-15T14:56:51.440+01:002017-10-15T14:56:51.440+01:00I don't know who knew what - but victims comin...I don't know who knew what - but victims coming forward is a personal choice, and the pressure and expectations of the industry are very much weighted against them. Criticising victims just makes people even less likely to come forward in future.<br /><br />I don't like Weinstein. At all. And I'm sure the stuff he'll be willing to admit to will be bad enough. <br /><br />But he's still innocent until proven guilty. And I still believe ALL of the victims. <br /><br />I think we need to stress this as often as it takes to sink it - accepting that someone is innocent until proven guilty is NOT the same as disbelieving victims. We need to accept both - even though it feels contradictory. He's innocent until proven guilty AND their accusations are valid!Cee Arr @ Dora Readshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074909561530525221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-904551567804562350.post-37563234282925630592017-10-15T14:39:32.368+01:002017-10-15T14:39:32.368+01:00This whole thing is really quite disturbing. I was...This whole thing is really quite disturbing. I was watching the news and they were asking Weinstein questions as he was leaving his house, and he said: “everyone makes mistakes.” Ugh no, a mistake is forgetting to turn the light off after leaving the house, what you did was not a mistake. <br /><br />What’s also really annoying me is, like you said, the victim blaming. A ton of people are blaming the women comin forward now for not coming forward sooner, so perhaps more women wouldn’t have suffered. However, most of these women did say things to their directors, partners and many famous male actors, and nobody did anything!! It’s really shocking listening to the likes of Matt Damon, Dicaprio, and Pitt almost defending their decisions not to say anything when they clearly knew something was going on.paperbackprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446601964387517150noreply@blogger.com